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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 14 @ 11:05 AM ET
Eklund: UFA2B: Taylor Hall. What's He Worth? Is he set on Calgary? All-Time Flyers
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Mar 14 @ 11:14 AM ET
Hard to leave Recchi off this list considering many of his best years and large chunk of his stats were as a Flyer.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Mar 14 @ 11:15 AM ET
You need both Recchi and Gagne on here.

Def ditch Poulin

Gotta be someone over Provy I’m not thinking of?
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Mar 14 @ 11:19 AM ET
Provy is young, but If you’re looking at strictly talent and projected production (fingers crossed no health scares), he damn well may belong here.

I thought about that awhile. It’s a tough call.

And yeah. Recchi over Poulin. I’m not sure where Gags fits as much as I love the dude.
DarthProbert
Joined: 06.29.2016

Mar 14 @ 11:20 AM ET
Not to overestimate the intelligence of an NHL GM on the NHL equivalent of black friday, but the Flames already have Gaudreau and Tkachuk at left wing. And if Hall has one city/team he's set on, that should drive down the price.

IF I were the Flames GM, and IF I wanted to shell out for Hall, it'd mean either Hall, Gaudrea, or Tkachuk is becoming a right winger, or Gaudreau is getting traded(which, if the return is good, isn't the worst idea).

That said, Hall strikes me as a guy who'd sign with the worst team in the league if they offered an extra half million a year, and then talk about "wanting to win" at the press conference.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Mar 14 @ 11:20 AM ET
Provy is young, but If you’re looking at strictly talent and projected production (fingers crossed no health scares), he damn well may belong here.

I thought about that awhile. It’s a tough call.

And yeah. Recchi over Poulin. I’m not sure where Gags fits as much as I love the dude.

- Hesh_


Yeah I guess Giroux beats him out
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:21 AM ET
All these teams that stocked up at the deadline are gonna be a little pissed off if the rest of the season is cancelled....
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Mar 14 @ 11:21 AM ET
Yeah I guess Giroux beats him out
- Wingdestroyer

I mean, the dude is prolly gonna finish 2nd all time for the Flyers in points after Clarke. Gotta give it to him.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Mar 14 @ 11:30 AM ET
I mean, the dude is prolly gonna finish 2nd all time for the Flyers in points after Clarke. Gotta give it to him.
- Hesh_


Recchi in for Poulin then def and Hextall over Pelle (JIC a line brawl happens)
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Mar 14 @ 11:30 AM ET
It’s a fantastic team. They’re gonna grind you down, wear you out, and can still score with ease. Parent is a brick wall in net, and the D is sound.

But they’re still not on the level of like the Habs.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
7x9m I would say is hall’s real value, you may get a team with a ton of cap space offering 10+ but teams with that kind of cap space generally aren’t good.

I could also see hall taking 7x8m to be on a good team with a track record of competing the last few seasons. If he signs with a fringe team or worse all that talk about wanting to win is b.s, he has made millions of dollars, will continue to make millions of dollars. If he signs for 8 he’s only losing 7-14 million for a better shot at winning the cup (while still making 56 million).

I don’t love the thought of him coming to Calgary due to injury history, but if he were to tkachuck will slide over to RW as he has in the past when loading lines. I would also say this is contingent on what the salary cap goes up to. If it’s at the 84 million I would say forget it since Calgary still has to resign mangiapane.
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Mar 14 @ 11:39 AM ET
Taylor Hall...5 years 8.5M or it's a hard pass
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Mar 14 @ 11:40 AM ET
7x9m I would say is hall’s real value, you may get a team with a ton of cap space offering 10+ but teams with that kind of cap space generally aren’t good.

I could also see hall taking 7x8m to be on a good team with a track record of competing the last few seasons. If he signs with a fringe team or worse all that talk about wanting to win is b.s, he has made millions of dollars, will continue to make millions of dollars. If he signs for 8 he’s only losing 7-14 million for a better shot at winning the cup (while still making 56 million).

I don’t love the thought of him coming to Calgary due to injury history, but if he were to tkachuck will slide over to RW as he has in the past when loading lines. I would also say this is contingent on what the salary cap goes up to. If it’s at the 84 million I would say forget it since Calgary still has to resign mangiapane.

- RedC21


I can’t see Hall take 8/year. This will be the biggest payday of his career and he knows it. Next contract after this will be a pay decrease. He’ll want 8 figures per year, and someone will probably cough it up.
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 14 @ 11:55 AM ET
If someone goes 7yr/$10 they are really going to regret the last 3 years of that contract. If he does 5yr/$11 it might not be so bad. However, I think whoever signs him will never recoup their investment. He still is a real good player, but his best years are behind him.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 14 @ 12:19 PM ET
I can’t see Hall take 8/year. This will be the biggest payday of his career and he knows it. Next contract after this will be a pay decrease. He’ll want 8 figures per year, and someone will probably cough it up.
- Hesh_


It all depends on what team signs him, I could see him taking 8m to be on a cup contending team if all his talk about wanting to win is true. Sure he might get persuaded by a bad team with a ton of cap space but most good teams don’t just have an extra 10+m lying around to spend on 1 player. If he were to do that I also believe the team would be overpaying as I don’t think he’s a 10 million dollar player to begin with. Add in players with multiple injuries tend to decline faster it’s a deal that can look bad earlier into the contract.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Mar 14 @ 1:09 PM ET
8x8 is 64
10x8 is 80

I can’t see this kid turn away $16 million just yet, even if it is for a contender. Maybe if the contender offered 9 per. Even if you’ve made that much coin, $16m is a ton of dough to leave on the table.

But then again, maybe that’s just my logic.
MRK66
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 14 @ 1:14 PM ET
If you believe that goals per game in the playoffs (or even points per game) are where it counts, then it is really difficult to ignore D.Briere. IMHO he is worth consideration.
marleyreap
San Jose Sharks
Location: cleveland, OH
Joined: 09.16.2008

Mar 14 @ 1:15 PM ET
just mentioning, does ROENICK qualify?
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Mar 14 @ 1:31 PM ET
just mentioning, does ROENICK qualify?
- marleyreap


He wasn’t better than some of these other forwards during his tenure in Philly.

Brier doesn’t best Giroux (or any of these others) I don’t think
jaredwildzee
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.08.2011

Mar 14 @ 1:31 PM ET
If you're going to say Pronger(whom you barely had)..You have to say Jagr
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Mar 14 @ 1:32 PM ET
If you're going to say Pronger(whom you barely had)..You have to say Jagr
- jaredwildzee


Again, like JR, he was GOOD but not great with Philly.

Pronger was still near the top of his game when he lead them to the cup finals and would have stayed there a bit longer (see: Chara) barring the injury
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Mar 14 @ 1:46 PM ET
Hall is not worth 10. Maybe 6-7 range. He has not proven anything. He is not a leader of men. Has not won a cup.

Ek this is a question for you. Who is the Blues rival team. I would think Blackhawks but you have them against someone else.


How much does Petro deserve? I am think he resigns with the Blues for 8-10 per year at max length.
Tommycasino
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2018

Mar 14 @ 1:53 PM ET
We got the L-C-B line how about the Legion of Doom line? Renberg?

Big time goal scorers?
Justin Williams? Jeff Carter?
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Mar 14 @ 1:54 PM ET
Unless it is cheep cheep like 6 For 6 I would completely pass. hall is a good player but he is a whinny baby who gives up on his teammates when the going gets tough. (Ie edm). You don’t need a good player but a bad teammate
goavsgo10
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Landeskoging, NY
Joined: 02.14.2010

Mar 14 @ 1:59 PM ET
I could see the Avs offer a really large AAV for 3 years. This is what they tried to do with Panarin.

$15M over 3 years. They have the cap space and that contract runs until Mac needs to be resigned.
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